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Jill Evans

Jill Evans

7 Jul 2011 | 10:20

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Tired of bashing your head against the glass ceiling and beating the same old diversity drum? Well, spare a thought for a bunch of Italian women who were reportedly bounced out of their jobs recently when their employer, a small engineering company, had to make a third of its 30-strong workforce redundant.

The firm, according to The Guardian, decided to hold on to its 12 male employees, and make the 13 redundancies from among its 18 female employees, on the grounds that the women could spend more time with their families, and weren’t the main bread winners anyway.

That sort of thing couldn’t happen here, you think?

The most recent statistics indicate that sex discrimination still accounts for the highest number of discrimination claims lodged with employment tribunals. Admittedly there is an incentive for employees to go down this route as awards for successful discrimination claims are uncapped, unlike those for unfair dismissal. But maybe there’s still plenty of inequality in the workplace just waiting to be challenged.

A story we ran recently about Wal-Mart successfully blocking an equal pay/sex discrimination claim class action from a million female employees, got a record number of hits on our website. Maybe it was our sub-head that attracted visitors: ‘Decision will prevent similar class actions against large firms’. Sighs of relief spreading from here way across the Atlantic?

Probably not. The HR community knows it cannot afford to be complacent. A few months back, chairman of commodities firm Glencore (stock market flotation value £36bn) Simon Murray was reported as justifying his reluctance for boardroom quotas, or even hiring young women, on the grounds that, “I know they’re going to get pregnant and … go off for nine months.”

He thought this made women “not so ambitious in business as men because … they like bringing up their children and all sorts of other things”. 

Lord Davies, author of the Women on Boards report, called the comments “unforgiveable” and about 30 years out of date. Murray later said he was “100 per cent committed to equal opportunities in the boardroom and across a company’s structure”. Now where have I heard that one before?

There are going to be more equality cases going through the tribunal system for HR people to defend until those holding the corporate purse strings catch up with the direction that the rest of us are heading in.

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1. At 13:07 on 07 Jul 2011, Barbara Patrick wrote:

Hard to believe it's 2011... Unbelievable!
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2. At 15:03 on 07 Jul 2011, Richard James Barnes wrote:

Amazing. Wonder what it will cost them in claims?

I think the comments from Simon Murray need to be taken in context though and not just be subjected to the feigned incredulity I sometimes hear. All he did was tell the truth. Many senior women figures in business would agree with him. And before I get added to the MCP list of political incorrectness ask yourself this. When was the last time you heard a man say he didn't want to get promoted or take on a high power job because he wanted to raise a family? Those that do are almost always those that have already acquired the wealth to be able to "spend more time with their families". On the other hand I can think of scores of very capable women I've met who simply do not want to take on higher pressure roles and genuinely do see raising a family as a preference to becoming a Director or senior manager. Just becaue it isn't PC, doesn't mean it isn't true.

Also, isn't it time the PC brigade stopped denegrating a perfectly valid choice for women and assuming that somehow being in the Boardroom is to be seen as better than being a homemaker and carer. Biologically a woman still has a unique relationship with a child that a man will never have..As far as I am concerned someone who has brought up successful well-adjusted kids has achieved more than some high-flyer in the City making cash for the banks. What we need to ensure is that we make that alternative possible and just as easily available but not to force unachievable ratios on business or crucify people just for stating an unpalletable fact.

The barriers for women are in fact set in the early years of life by institutionalised sexism, not by nasty male bosses trying to put women in their place"
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3. At 08:13 on 20 Jul 2011, John wrote:

I think Richard has really missed the point of why People Management published this article. No wonder he is concerned about being added to the MCP list he probably is at the top of it.
No one disputes that individuals should not have a choice in their career, but the article clearly states that Simon Murray justifies his reluctance in hiring young women as he knows that they will get pregnant and go off for nine months.
I agree with Lord Davies that this sort of attitude is unforgiveable and reflects a stoneage way of thinking, obviously there is still a long way to go in educating some people.
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4. At 13:49 on 03 Aug 2011, Thomas Hughes wrote:

Simon Murray told the truth in an unguarded moment then did then of course retracted his statement. That does not hide the fact of what he said and what he really thinks. Unfortunately there are lots of men in similar positions who think the same that’s one of the main reasons stopping women moving forward in their chosen careers.

It beggars belief that such educated and accomplished men can still have that attitude. It makes you wonder what their attitudes to corporate social responsibility and other social issues are. Actually I probably already know the answer.
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